Former President Donald Trump isn’t losing sleep over the prospect that he could end up behind bars, he said in an exclusive interview with NBC’s “Meet the Press” moderator Kristen Welker.
“I don’t even think about it,” Trump, who has been indicted four times this year, said when asked if he worries about prison at night. “I don’t even think about it,” Trump, who has been indicted four times this year, said when asked if he worries about prison at night. How do you do it?’ I don’t think about it at all. “
Later in the interview, which was recorded Thursday at Trump’s Bedminster golf club and which airs Sunday on NBC affiliates, the former president returned to the question.
“When you say, do I lose sleep? “I sleep,” he replied. “I sleep. “I sleep. Because I feel we will win. “
NBC News has also extended an invitation to President Joe Biden to sit down with Welker for an interview.
Trump, who is running far ahead of his competitors for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination, offered his most extensive remarks on Jan. 6 and the peril he faces from charges that his retention of classified documents and failed attempts to overturn the 2020 election were illegal.
He took responsibility for the decision to try to reverse his loss.
“We have many people, and it’s my choice,” he said at one point, later adding, “It was my decision. But I did listen to some people. He said that he didn’t heed the advice of top campaign and administration lawyers who told him that he lost the election because he “didn’t respect them” as lawyers. When Welker pointed out that Trump had hired the lawyers, Trump described them as turncoats – Republicans only in name. Getty Images
“They turn out to be RINOs, or they turn out to be not so good, in many cases, I didn’t respect them,” he said. “But I respected others. I respected those who said that the election was rigged. “
Trump said that to be declared the winner, he only needed about 22,000 votes in key battleground states — a number that would have been on target had votes been cast for Biden instead of Trump.
Are you admitting you didn’t get it? Welker asked.
“I’m not admitting,” he replied. “No. I claim to have won the election. I say I won the election. Those charges stem from a nearly two-month campaign to stop Biden’s election from being cemented, an effort that culminated in his supporters storming the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, to stop electoral votes from being counted.
He has also been charged in Georgia in connection with his push to overturn that state’s result.
He said he has “no” regrets — “none whatsoever” — about a Jan. 2, 2021, phone call in which he asked Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensberger to come up with more votes to upend his defeat in the state.
“I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state,” Trump said on the call, which he claims was illegally recorded because he didn’t give his consent to be taped.
Trump also accused President Joe Biden, who has studiously avoided weighing in on the charges, of propagating “Biden indictments” — despite Attorney General Merrick Garland’s appointment of special counsels to investigate separate allegations against Trump, Biden and Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, who was indicted on gun-related charges Thursday.
In a separate federal trial, Trump has been charged with keeping and hiding classified documents from the federal government.
He said that he never ordered anyone to delete security footage from his Mar-a-Lago resort — and said he would testify to that in court.
Calling the allegation “false,” he said, “I’ll testify. … It’s a false charge. The tapes were not deleted, but that’s not the most important thing. And they were not deleted. They were my tapes. “
But Trump may be in the most immediate legal danger because of his actions on January 6. He also downplayed his role in the riot that ensued after he told his supporters to march to the Capitol. He also played down his role in the riot that ensued after he told his supporters to march to the Capitol.
“First of all, I had very little to do with Jan. 6,” Trump said. “I was asked by the president to speak. “I was asked to speak.” I am allowed to speak. “
Welker pressed him on his version of events. Welker asked him to give his version of the events.
So I spoke. “And then I went back,” Trump said in reference to his return to White House. “I wanted a peaceful and patriotic descent to the Capitol. Secret Service, whom I greatly respect, told me, “Sir, you should not do that.” It might be dangerous. Trump said: “”
The police officer didn’t tell me that because of riots. You know, all it takes is one person with bad intent. “I didn’t argue with them. “
Then, he took issue with Hutchinson’s testimony.
“You know you had one person said I grabbed the man around the neck,” he said. “I wish I were so strong that I could do this. All of them are tough, intelligent guys. “
Welker asked Trump to confirm he was disputing Hutchinson’s account.
“Dispute it? Who would not dispute it? She’s — craziest story I’ve heard. He said: “You mean I was in ‘The Beast’?” referring to the nickname for the presidential limousine. “And she said that I was there, and the Secret Service did not want — so I grabbed a guy with a black-belt in karate, and I tried to choke him… How ridiculous.” “